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by ross nolan
Mon May 22, 2006 4:59 am
Forum: General discussion of SES
Topic: adult school U.K - dont know what to think!
Replies: 41
Views: 63774

AB's question

Hi AB, just read your other posting -- your experience and reaction was just about word perfect to my own (also at Silver Birches Croydon and at the Royal Society building ) -- I was going to post the syllabus on the earlier thread asking why did people get involved .. Perhaps you could do a search ...
by ross nolan
Mon May 22, 2006 4:39 am
Forum: The Australian and NZ schools
Topic: The Melbourne School
Replies: 208
Views: 361717

getting a bit too critical ?

The Erasmus school and Parenting classes were quite openly advertised at the SOP classes . It does no good to look for covering up of some matters that are in fact quite open -- the bringing up of children has taken place since time immemorial by 'unqualified' parents and others. With the current pr...
by ross nolan
Mon May 22, 2006 2:55 am
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: Tears Roll Down
Replies: 96
Views: 170526

misguided empathy?

Does anyone notice that Shout! has left or that Justice! and a number of others have (quietly) departed ? (after similar episodes of 'politically correct' group behaviour where they have been turned on ) It seems that the same sort of "stoning mob" is congregating again . Shout was reacting to Anton...
by ross nolan
Wed May 17, 2006 11:02 pm
Forum: St James and St Vedast
Topic: The next step: we need to act!
Replies: 40
Views: 61333

what plan?

For the record I too have no knowledge of such a 'plan' .

How does 1980sstj infer that anyone else is aware of something ?
by ross nolan
Wed May 17, 2006 10:53 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: Tears Roll Down
Replies: 96
Views: 170526

'preserving knowledge'

Bella, I don't even have Discovery channel -- do you ridicule their documentaries ? Your "preservation of knowledge" in monastries is only very partially true -- a lot of the transcription of Biblical texts was carried out on parchment previously preserved from earlier times and carrying really pric...
by ross nolan
Wed May 17, 2006 10:43 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: Tears Roll Down
Replies: 96
Views: 170526

Bella , Leon eta al -- Is "the obvious reason" fear of religiously inspired retribution? (it might not be as obvious as you imply ) The very name of this website "Why are they dead?" refers to 'mysterious' deaths of people who were members of a quasi religious cult -- to be intimidated into sinful s...
by ross nolan
Wed May 17, 2006 12:00 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: Tears Roll Down
Replies: 96
Views: 170526

deleted.........

Note Celia's "response" has been deleted in the last few minutes -- my last lines in particular will not be understood in their absence. There is little or nothing about the SES that is unique and the same reasons for throwing off religious dogma in general apply whether or not you have studied the ...
by ross nolan
Wed May 17, 2006 11:49 am
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: Tears Roll Down
Replies: 96
Views: 170526

causation.....or? coincidence.

GB - no, causation is itself only a working presumption which,like gravity ,seems to work pretty well much of the time . It COULD be that the daily beheadings by persons claiming a certain religious affiliation (Islam) and ,to a man, yelling "Allah Aqkbar" is a purely coincidental happening -- like ...
by ross nolan
Mon May 15, 2006 1:53 am
Forum: St James and St Vedast
Topic: The next step: we need to act!
Replies: 40
Views: 61333

keeping correspondence

Shout, (in absentia) I have kept my emails both to and from the charities commission and tried to be as 'diplomatic' as possible even when dealing with the astounding response that this website was only about scientology -- (as last reported) I will try to do a cut and paste to put the emails on to ...
by ross nolan
Mon May 15, 2006 1:16 am
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: Tears Roll Down
Replies: 96
Views: 170526

' more islamic nicety'

Celia (in particular) -- there are a few other Islamic sayings that might be quoted here. "Allah, Aqkbar" is becoming a quite popular one -- frequently used as you plunge a jet aircraft full of unbelievers into a world trade centre for example, truck bombing in Iraq, blowing yourself up in Israel or...
by ross nolan
Sun May 14, 2006 5:21 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: Tears Roll Down
Replies: 96
Views: 170526

how many slaves can dance on a pinhead?

Anton et al, Perhaps you are being deliberately disingenuous in dragging in the minutae of the Hindu/Islamic definitions of 'good' and 'bad' slavery, and referring to your ,no doubt, extensive and impressive theoretical study of the various 'sacred' Hindu texts,( that anyway clearly permit of a wide...
by ross nolan
Sun May 14, 2006 2:14 am
Forum: General discussion of SES
Topic: Meditation
Replies: 126
Views: 161623

More TM and GM

This might be of interest . http://www.alkalizeforhealth.net/meditation.htm It is obviously a pro TM site but purports to have well peer reviewed evidence and an extensive cross referencing on TM evaluations. I don't think too many people would disagree that the state of mind affects the physical he...
by ross nolan
Sun May 14, 2006 1:33 am
Forum: General discussion of SES
Topic: Meditation
Replies: 126
Views: 161623

TM and GM

Just a point; There seems to be at least a covert assumption that the involvement of General Motors and Daimler/Chrysler with the introduction of Meditation or TM gives an imprimatur of respectability somehow or that such icons of Western industry would not be associated with screwball eastern mysti...
by ross nolan
Sat May 13, 2006 12:23 am
Forum: St James and St Vedast
Topic: Speaking of Leaflets and Graffiti...
Replies: 5
Views: 12630

chilling out

Mike, I think it is obvious that Dissenter is being flippant at worst and just a bit 'Walter Mitty" like at best (younger viewers do a Google on that ) If a few more people had laughed at Adolf Hitler or thrown cream pies at him when he was just another 'harmless' megalomaniac (or defaced some propa...
by ross nolan
Fri May 12, 2006 11:53 pm
Forum: St James and St Vedast
Topic: Leaflets and grafitti
Replies: 10
Views: 18766

leafletting

Re Leafletting ; What is being objected to exactly ? " Pamphleteering" was a major activity of subversives like Benjamin Franklin when working to get independence , representation etc in the American colonies and seems to take place around election time in most democracies -- does SES complain about...

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