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by ross nolan
Wed Mar 08, 2006 12:04 am
Forum: General discussion of SES
Topic: new thread for adult school joiners why did you join ?
Replies: 13
Views: 7269

why join the SES

I just worked out how to edit the incorrect thread heading. This is intended to be a place where people who saw one of the ads( most probably) decided to 'look into' the school of philosophy and then to describe what they found there and what effect it had had on them. Or perhaps attended some sort ...
by ross nolan
Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:36 pm
Forum: St James and St Vedast
Topic: Towards a practical resolution for pupils past and present
Replies: 36
Views: 15669

"Truth" and reconciliation

Free and others, I am probably the one guilty of first using the analogy to the South African truth and reconciliation commission -- do not overlook the small fact that the S.A. commission took place AFTER the repudiation and cessation of the foul doctrine that it addressed. The SES/SOP are STILL pe...
by ross nolan
Tue Mar 07, 2006 10:03 pm
Forum: Housekeeping
Topic: An example of equality, free speech and democracy OR IS IT??
Replies: 27
Views: 12539

suspension

Some of the chatter on this forum is becoming pedantic in the extreme and non informative to say the least. Having waded through the increasingly vitriolic and out of control shouting of the person in question I am prepared to accept that;- 1. any action taken was certain to be deserved and was not ...
by ross nolan
Tue Mar 07, 2006 9:52 pm
Forum: General discussion of SES
Topic: SES for babies!!! Deeply depressing
Replies: 22
Views: 9061

"zero idea?"

Gee Leon, that's a bit rough (and brief) , would you care to elaborate? I have next to zero experience of raising children if that is what you mean (but not matching your cut and paste that seems to refer to Steiner) A schoolfriend from my old hometown Mildura put his child in a Steiner school and t...
by ross nolan
Tue Mar 07, 2006 8:17 pm
Forum: General discussion of SES
Topic: SES for babies!!! Deeply depressing
Replies: 22
Views: 9061

SES credo on babies etc

This must be the thread I have least personal experience of but several questions have been put without answer and obvious misunderstandings of Vedic teachings on this -- incidentally "parenting" courses were offered at the introductory class ;- along with weekend 'courses' in everything from Callig...
by ross nolan
Tue Mar 07, 2006 7:46 pm
Forum: General discussion of SES
Topic: "No sexual abuse in SES/SOP?"
Replies: 45
Views: 20505

sarcasm not needed

Hi, just an interim post _ I lost another substantial posting due to spyware that I thought I had cleaned out -- I will try again probably this weekend. Frodo - I thought you had concerns about "SES and gays" and would therefore possibly have some comprehension about matters of sexual 'blackmail' an...
by ross nolan
Mon Mar 06, 2006 1:11 pm
Forum: St James and St Vedast
Topic: St James and SES: genesis of the relationship
Replies: 14
Views: 7482

Genesis of SES revisited.

Gandalf's original posting on the reasons for the SES (and later St James) coming into being makes for interesting reading -- nominally the SES started because of the depression of the 1930s 'to try to understand why this happenned...etc' actually there was a rather more severe depression in the 189...
by ross nolan
Mon Mar 06, 2006 12:27 pm
Forum: General discussion of SES
Topic: "No sexual abuse in SES/SOP?"
Replies: 45
Views: 20505

some follow up

OK scepticism about sexual molestation,abuse,incest,manipulation or even ritualized sex as religion is of itself healthy and can only be moderated by the unfortunate validated record of all such misdeeds by the most 'holy' and 'enlightened' religious devotees, gurus, priests etc Below are a few only...
by ross nolan
Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:45 pm
Forum: Housekeeping
Topic: An example of equality, free speech and democracy OR IS IT??
Replies: 27
Views: 12539

freedom of speech etc

Dear Elster,' freedom of speech' does have limits in the interest of respect for individual opinion -- civilized persons try to elicit reasons for others holding opinions and possibly provide arguments to convince others that there are better reasons for believing something else --to resort to writt...
by ross nolan
Sun Mar 05, 2006 8:55 pm
Forum: General discussion of SES
Topic: "No sexual abuse in SES/SOP?"
Replies: 45
Views: 20505

SES sexual factors

Dear Frodo, Jerome et al, In answer to one "was it me who said ..." No I think you will find that Shout was referring to sexual abuse quite some time back . I have too little personal experience with the SES/SOP to make 'statements of fact' but I did have many years of exposure to the beliefs of the...
by ross nolan
Sun Mar 05, 2006 8:00 am
Forum: St James and St Vedast
Topic: Leaving the S.E.S & St. James pupils
Replies: 20
Views: 8590

to and fro....

I sometimes lose track of whether we are dealing with St James students or members of the SES (or both) -- Sam Hyde gives no particular reason for 'leaving' the SES as in 'having seen the light' or whether such a leaving is an irrevocable act -- surely the standard treatment for cult 'leavers' is to...
by ross nolan
Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:24 am
Forum: St James and St Vedast
Topic: Give it a break...
Replies: 28
Views: 10073

agree -- next step?

Hear,Hear ! Anton -- I have lost all idea of what the verbal exchanges on the St James pupil's thread(s) are trying to acheive or what relevance they can have to either reform or 'reconciliation' -- surely most of this is idle gossip and can be PM'd to whoever thinks it important and spare the rest....
by ross nolan
Tue Feb 28, 2006 12:29 pm
Forum: Cults and religious organisations generally
Topic: QUIZ TIME FOR SES MEMBERS!
Replies: 14
Views: 5305

joining 'assholes' etc

Touche Justice! Do you remember the case of George senior commending the organization "NAMBLA" for both it's generous campaign donation and it's ongoing work . Somewhat later Pres Bush was informed that NAMBLA stood for the "north american man boy love association" -- donation quietly returned . (tr...
by ross nolan
Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:26 am
Forum: Cults and religious organisations generally
Topic: QUIZ TIME FOR SES MEMBERS!
Replies: 14
Views: 5305

SES/Theosaphy

Got a bit diverted there.. The primary link between SES and Theosaphy seems to be the Gurdjieff and Ouspensky connection -- Mac Claren fell in with the study group formed to follow Gurdjieffs' teachings and then felt he had located the source in the Shankahara in India ..... did anyone note the obvi...
by ross nolan
Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:55 am
Forum: Cults and religious organisations generally
Topic: QUIZ TIME FOR SES MEMBERS!
Replies: 14
Views: 5305

links etc

No surprise about the similarities if you know the "family tree" of many of these religions,cults etc -- the seventh day adventists and Jehovah's witnesses are branches from "Millerite" religious 'branch' -- started by a former baptist William Miller -- the worldwide church of god (Herbert W Armstro...

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