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by actuallythere
Sat Jul 28, 2012 2:33 pm
Forum: Cults and religious organisations generally
Topic: The Century of the Self
Replies: 9
Views: 21132

Re: The Century of the Self

@chittani We have a difference of opinion on the matter - that is a good thing. You say I am 'confused' about what the 'self' is - so it would appear that you are a greater authority on the 'self' than I am, and that you are certain that you are not confused about what the self is. I would like to k...
by actuallythere
Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:46 am
Forum: General discussion of SES
Topic: Art in Action
Replies: 9
Views: 18913

Re: Art in Action

@Middle Way

Fear of what, exactly?

I ask because fortunately I've never been a member of SES, nor did I go to the schools, so I've never had to experience the fear that you refer to.
by actuallythere
Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:08 am
Forum: The Australian and NZ schools
Topic: Sydney School for Self Knowledge
Replies: 317
Views: 439182

Re: Sydney School for Self Knowledge

There is a term that describes a condition where one is incapable of feeling the hurtful effects that their speech/actions have on others.


There are several terms that describe this but one is narcissism and another is egocentricity.

That is what the SES is all about.
by actuallythere
Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:30 pm
Forum: The Australian and NZ schools
Topic: Sydney School for Self Knowledge
Replies: 317
Views: 439182

Re: Sydney School for Self Knowledge

37 copies available here http://www.amazon.co.uk/Secret-Cult-Pet ... 345&sr=8-1

It costs 1p plus around £4.00 to ship to Australia, depending on which of the sellers you choose to buy it from.
by actuallythere
Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:47 am
Forum: General discussion of SES
Topic: 'Secret' mantras
Replies: 50
Views: 96736

Re: 'Secret' mantras

Dear Ella, Thanks very much for your thoughtful reply. You wrote: I realise this is your line of work so you do not say these things without there being some basis to them. Here you've jumped to a conclusion - this is not my line of work. I am not more of an authority on the subject than anyone else...
by actuallythere
Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:52 pm
Forum: General discussion of SES
Topic: 'Secret' mantras
Replies: 50
Views: 96736

Re: 'Secret' mantras

Tootsie,

I appreciate your reply and all is understood.

Is it not the case that you were missing something before you joined the SES? Did you not have low self-esteem, some kind of discomfort about yourself, or your past?
by actuallythere
Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:24 am
Forum: General discussion of SES
Topic: 'Secret' mantras
Replies: 50
Views: 96736

Re: 'Secret' mantras

@Tootsie I'm reluctant to use the word 'stupid' because it is way to vague and probably imprecise. It is also an easy word to displace a whole range of pretty scary and complex reasons why a person might stay in SES so long. I assume you don't have an unusually low IQ, you don't travel by car withou...
by actuallythere
Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:00 am
Forum: General discussion of SES
Topic: 'Secret' mantras
Replies: 50
Views: 96736

Re: 'Secret' mantras

@Ella "I believed all that I was told by our leaders .. either naively or just plain stupidly!" This sense of 'stupidity' is a consistent feeling among people who are about to leave or have left SES. In fact, sometimes it is so embarrassing for certain kinds of members that it actually sto...
by actuallythere
Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:27 pm
Forum: Cults and religious organisations generally
Topic: Corrupted Spiritual Groups
Replies: 3
Views: 9381

Re: Corrupted Spiritual Groups

+Denial that the group is a religion despite generally noticeable characteristics of a religion +Members become ever more distant from old friends and family with time, and form closer bonds with the group +Noticeable personality change among new members +Behavioural codes creating social barriers w...
by actuallythere
Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:05 pm
Forum: General discussion of SES
Topic: 'Secret' mantras
Replies: 50
Views: 96736

Re: 'Secret' mantras

@Ella

"I realised that School actually keeps you more asleep, than actually helping you to wake"

Now THAT is what I call the truth.
by actuallythere
Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:06 am
Forum: General discussion of SES
Topic: 'Secret' mantras
Replies: 50
Views: 96736

Re: 'Secret' mantras

@Blissfully

Yes, the Khmer Rouge did this as well, when indoctrinating child soldiers.

Famous scene in The Killing Fields as far as I recall.
by actuallythere
Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:46 am
Forum: General discussion of SES
Topic: 'Secret' mantras
Replies: 50
Views: 96736

Re: 'Secret' mantras

@Ella "A genuine mantra given by a genuine Holy Man is very traditional and a bona fide part of the Advait-Vedanta Tradition." That's precisely the point. SES tutors are certainly not 'Holy Men'. They're insecure suburban commuters with empty, materialistic lives. It is a total desecration...
by actuallythere
Thu Jul 19, 2012 5:51 pm
Forum: General discussion of SES
Topic: 'Secret' mantras
Replies: 50
Views: 96736

'Secret' mantras

Following the mention of 'secret' mantras on a thread I'm opening this one to discuss the topic. In my opinion the initiation ceremony including the 'secret' is a threshold in the slow mind-control process. Being given a secret is an ego boost. It works as an SES filter that keeps in people who are ...
by actuallythere
Fri Jul 13, 2012 7:23 pm
Forum: The Australian and NZ schools
Topic: Sydney School for Self Knowledge
Replies: 317
Views: 439182

Re: Sydney School for Self Knowledge

Dear Tootsie,

Bear in mind that Laura Wilson stated for public record than an SES member killed herself rather than leave.

Considering why that person chose suicide over leaving might help your question to be answered.

AT
by actuallythere
Thu Jul 12, 2012 6:26 am
Forum: Cults and religious organisations generally
Topic: The Century of the Self
Replies: 9
Views: 21132

The Century of the Self

Recommended viewing for all regular contributors to this forum, a 4-hour BBC series that for me provided a superb explanation of what is going on at SES. The documentary is all about how 'the ego' and 'the self' has been manipulated by politicians, advertisers and public relations people to prompt t...

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