Postby joeblogs » Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:03 am
Hi again... Thanks for your replies, Et, Jo-anne and Bonsai. I just wanted to say a few things before I stay away for awhile from this forum. Reading it has left me seriously stressed out and not sleeping well, and worrying about the fact that I was in cult when I actually didn’t think it was a bad organisation, is really a damn unpleasant feeling. I need a wee break to get myself sorted again and then I can come back maybe. For my whole life I was told I was lucky to be born into an SES family. It was the will of god. When you are young this kind of comment stays with you and even when you're old enough to realise how ridiculous it is, you still hold on to it because its a nice feeling. I have great parents, I love them a lot and am sad that what I thought was a pretty decent and honourable organisation is actually just the result of an attempted cult in the 60s which has mellowed out and become just a wierd juxtaposition of mind control techniques desguised as spiritual activities and some attempts to discover the truth behind these activities, which I dont think they will find as it may not even exist. In the last few days I’ve read a lot of the articles posted here about cults and watched a few videos about cults and it seems clear to me that when Maclaren started the school it was a cult- it was a time when many cults with similar ideals and techniques were started. Whether he thought of it as a cult or not, I don’t know, he sounds like a maniac, and the things they were teaching were pretty good at helping people hide from reality so if he was using them himself maybe he was just in denial about what he did. So, Maclaren became a cult hero in the school, destroyed people’s ‘ego’s’ (and lives) forgetting about his own of course, and the school went on. People were hurt, badly, children and adults, one of the inevitable effects of mind control and cults… people will do anything when they are exhausted and can’t think for themselves and also believe they are doing it for the good of the world. Anyway, Maclaren died, Lambie took over, and from the start he was a really weird guy. No social skills, just happened to be chosen, and he had been subjected to the mind-control too so he’s just another sheep (excuse the pun ) following the unpleasant memory of Maclaren. So what we have now, and nothing much has changed, is an organization that believes itself to be good. I believe this is the case. I don’t think there is any real sinister motive behind the school anymore. Maybe one or too people, but the people in it are so brain-washed and controlled, including Lambie, that they couldn’t do anything bad. You just have to go to one of their unbelievably boring beginning of term lectures to see this.
So, to sum up, what we have is a school of philosophy, which is actually a religion. What they teach are the mind-control techniques like meditation, the exercise, concerntrating on the working surface, and separating the true self from the ahankara. is the separation of the ahankara from the self and the long days of work that leave you exhausted so they can plaster you with more ‘material’ before you leave. This is a typical mind control technique! Teach people to see their individual thoughts as something separate so they can see that as evil. Everything is blamed on the ahankara. We were once told we should smile while we worked. This was really scary as it reminded me of some kind of horrific work camp where you had to pretend you were happy while you suffered miserably. Of course, this doubt was just put down to the ahankara, and my ‘real self’ should recognize this as the truth. This particular exercise left me with a dual identity complex which is only just beginning to disappear. One day I’ll be happy to be me and gay and whatever, and the next I’ll want to be holier than thou and save the world and I have to find a woman in order to do this! Ridiculous stuff. And the fact that cults often use this technique to control people is very scary… once they’ve emptied people of their own ideas, they can place the cults’ ideas in their place. That’s why people see Lambie as a god, even though as far as I can tell he’s never done anything to merit it. I’ve never see him fly, although I saw him scratch his arse after a meeting once, I’m not surprised, sitting down droning rubbish with a massive stick up your bum can’t be pleasant. Sorry, a bit vulgar there, but a lot of people in the school do look like that. I wonder at what point they ask you if you are prepared to take the jump, drop your pants and receive the holy stick? (No sexual pun intended).
When I was in the school I honestly believed that these were spiritual exercises, even if they never worked. From the videos and articles I’ve read, I have come to the conclusion that these are mind control techniques which Maclaren, either knowingly or not (depending on how much you want to hate him- because I have trouble believing a man my parents respect so much, could be so evil as to knowingly start a cult- the power of the quest for knowledge is very strong and can be blinding.) What has happened is that the fact that these are mind control techniques has not been realized by the current members… otherwise I would have to accept the fact that my mum and dad are evil and I happen to know that they are not, and honestly believe that when they teach these things, they believe they are offering a way to discover the truth. What can I do about this? Nothing. I’m not an apologist for the school, I have quite a large grudge against it for what it’s done to me and my relationship with my parents who I don’t think would hate and fear homosexuality if the school didn’t tell them to, but the people seem to have good intentions and aren’t evil.
I also worked in a day school for awhile. I don’t think they are particularly dangerous anymore. Weird, and they do teach the kids ‘philosophical’ stuff like pausing. But I don’t think there’s any harm in kids calming down before a class, but they take it too far. The one time I asked the kids to pause they got so pissed off it was almost worse after! They hate the philosophy stuff because as kids, they seem to be able to recognize that it’s BS. The ones that don’t are the ones you later see with glazed eyes wondering around Waterperry.
Anyway, that is how I see things. A cult that has become a religion. And religions can be dangerous or not, depending on the members. I would love to see Lambie explain why he’s teaching known mind control techniques (apparently cults that juxtapose western teaching and eastern teaching are becoming more and more common, and there are some a lot more dangerous that the SES because they take people in and don’t let them leave. The SES is at least voluntary, although they do lie about it not being a religion- mainly because I honestly believe they don’t think it is- even though to anyone with a brain it obviously is.) Lambie would probably just say that they ARE mind control techniques as the mind does need to be controlled… yes maybe, but not by someone else!