Zathura wrote:...When I was your age I thought I was cool independent thinking and cool about women not being subserviant at all. i've always been a romantic. However I began to notice when I hit twenty five that much as I'd always rejected the S.E.S view of women in truth it was still an imprint, a blue print just below the surface that I was fighting against to hold the normal rational views I had always claimed to have...
That is exactly the experience that I have...and I think you'll agree, it really does take a lot of effort to completely purge one's system of it.
Zathura wrote:...The only thing is everyone in the girls school in the S.E.S claims to be independent and willfull minded my mum included, so why have the doctrine if everybody thinks it is wrong and are happy to be willfull. Maybe underneath everything everyone believes it?
A good point indeed. Some people will term this brainwashing, although that does conjure up an image of old Boris Karlov films. The point is, that despite what they say, they cannot tear themselves away from the belief. If someone you respect tells you something enough times, you start to believe it. Everyone is suceptible to this, but children are the path of least resistance.
Zathura wrote:..Courtney said the reason that women should obey men is that this was part of the Absolute's laws when he created the creation.
So, there you are...all their arguments boil down to something that they tell you is true. There is no rational or logical argument for it. When you come to start to question your own beliefs, you keep coming back to this same stumbling block.
1) Who knows "the Absolute"
2) Why is The Absolute a "He"
3) Who wrote down the laws
4) If someone was in touch with the bod who "created the creation" (!?!) then don't you think they would've discussed more important things than who should obey who?
Lets face it...it really is a load of cock and bull isn't it.