Thank you ..your post covered many good points.
The part where you described the story of the NZ Wellington group, breaking the bonds with
Londons' SES and then, Michael Mavros subsequent 'reaction' .. is so very typical of reactions I have
seen (in varying degrees) over the years.
It is such a shock when you first experience this.. first hand.
Ahamty2 wrote:The Wellington NZ branch of the SES under its leader with almost all its members broke with Leon McLaren’s SES in London completely. The news was broken to the ‘top group’ at its Friday’s group night. MM language was such that it could only be described as totally occult warning us never to challenge his leadership, that all the Wellington School had turned its back on the truth and are now damned for the rest of their lives, the eternal fires stuff. You had to be present to appreciate what the atmosphere was like that evening. MM and NM were no longer the couple of old.
I really liked your post here, (below) ..the words make perfect sense to me, thank you.
I recall in the first few years of SFSK from (1990's) MM would always tell us that we were following jnani yoga.
Then at one point, without an explanation he started saying we were on the most direct route that incorporated all the paths (Action, Bhakti etc).
Of course it was the best and most special ..
It also reminds me of what I heard a few years back (2004-2005), but really could not understand,
words said from HH to others (not myself) .. but repeated to me.
These words are echoed here in the last 3 posts from yourself, Ahamty2 and Middle Way.
These last posts have given more insight into why these words were said.
HH told these former students that the school (SFSK) had ... 'No love in it'.
Jo-Anne Morgan wrote:So you can call yourself a jnani; your diploma saying that you are now a qualified jnani yogi.
You are right Ahamty2. It is Jnana Yoga that the SES is trying to use.
It is dangerous, it is unsuitable even for monks and ascetics, it is definitely unsuitable for householders. It is too dry and barren. It is not Advaita Vedanta. Advaita Vedanta is not a religion, it is a study of Man in depth, it is an understanding of the ultimate truth. It comes out of Sanatana Dharma, (what we call Hinduism) which is the eternal and everlasting way of life. This Jnana Yoga that you are learning about is feeding the ego. The ego self is growing stronger which must devour all you have, without love and compassion you are lost in this dry desert of knowledge which is useless. So leave!
My statement above is a paraphrase of something I was told by a previous poster on the Board. He received it from someone he highly respected in the field. SES/SFSK are best left alone. There is no love and compassion there.
Hi Middle Way,
This last sentance of your post, is so very apt ..
As part of the subtle manipulation/brainwashing .. that SFSK is so good at providing to members!
Middle Way wrote: And this is harder the more the student has come under the delusion that only SFSK provides the good company needed to further one’s “spiritual journey”.