former st. james pupil (1982-1985)
Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 1:03 am
Dear All,
I was a St. James Boys school pupil in the early 1980's when the school was based at Chepstow Villas. Although this was a long time ago, memories came flooding back as I read through these posts.
Over the last few days I have been thinking about whether it is really my place to post my own views here or not (I was only there for three years and have not been through as much as some of the pupils who had been there since they were very small). But I think I can add something in my own way (apologies for the length of this post).
The first thing to say is that we need to take this beyond catharsis (a lot of us are very angry and resentful towards Debenham and the school, and rightly so). Some of us have tried to be objective (difficult though this is) and we have tried to relate our experience with some measure of clarity. I hope I can do that here.
My own experience of St. James is that it was a mix of some good things and some bloody awful things that made my life there a living hell. These were undoubtedly the worst days of my life. My parents often struggled to meet the fees at St. James, and sent me there in the expectation that I would benefit from an excellent education that included Sanskrit, meditation etc. (I come from a Hindu background so all this sounded great at the time). [OK - now some of you will have figured out who I am. I would appreciate it if you would preserve my anonymity]. From that perspective, it was potentially outstanding. The problem was that there was a more secretive side to the operation. Had they known about even half of it, I am pretty sure that they would never have sent me there.
The first is that the teachers were often unqualified to teach (this is something I actually discovered on this forum, and it astonished me that schools can be allowed to function in this way).
The second (and arguably more serious) is that the school was associated with the SES - a fact that was never revealed to my parents when I joined up. My parents had never even heard of the SES. I learned about this from the other boys in the school. From my perspective, there was certainly a very strange SES sub-culture that pupils found very tiresome, to which I had no access (for some reason I was never pushed down that route). I think there is a very serious problem with accepting children into the school and not telling his parents about its roots in an organisation with specific and unconventional religious ideologies.
Third, the fact that the school was wholly unprepared to receive pupils at thirteen. The whole curriculum had been designed for people who had been there from the age of 2. There was no plan for older pupils who joined later on. How was I supposed to start learning latin, greek and sanskrit to relatively advanced levels? I had no prior experience of these languages and absolutely no hope of catching up to everyone else?s standards. One has to ask whether there was a premature attempt to boost pupil numbers / school income with little thought given to how such problems would be resolved. I distinctly remember the rather poor quality of History teaching in the sixth form. This was all about how great the British Empire was and the wonderful ?civilising? effects it brought to its grateful heathen subjects. I felt deeply offended for obvious reasons. I tried raising the issue of the Suez crisis and the injustices of Empire etc., but these issues were skilfully dodged. I think most half-decent schools would have a problem teaching history in this way. Pupils cant develop the capacity to think critically and independently if they are taught this drivel.
Fourth, the insane practise of seating children in the rank of their academic performance. I hope very much that this practise has been done away with in the school since it simply sends a message to those pupils who could do better that they are not valued, and that not much is really expected of them (perhaps existing staff/pupils can confirm?). This was probably a crude attempt to introduce a bit of competition into the system to encourage pupils to climb the social ladder in the class (although that is not the way I saw it at the time). Although this strategy worked for some, there was no 'safety net' for those of us who did not do so well out of this system.
My level of academic performance was a disaster at St. James. I am sure that some staff at the school would argue that I was not very bright anyway. In response, I would simply point to my academic achievements since leaving the school (good O and A-levels, three university degrees including a PhD, an excellent training as a research scientist in London and Oxford Uni?s. I now have a faculty position in a University of London department where I am teaching undergraduates and setting up a research laboratory).
Why was I doing so badly? First, the very 'weird', high-pressure environment. I found that I was required to go through the motions of ?meditation? and ?pausing? (remarkably, nobody ever bothered to explain the techniques to me so I just had to ?pretend? to do these ? all rather comical in hindsight). Second, the daily, persistent, vicious racism in the class that went on right under the noses of all the staff (some of it from people who, rather hypocritically, have posted their own anti-St. James views on this forum). I can only conclude that this form of bullying was not taken seriously in the school. Third, the 'academic' neglect. No attempt was made to explain or halt my slide to the back of the back row. If any of my former teachers are out there reading this - I would be very interested to know why you let all this go?
Many of you have talked about the culture of fear and the regular 'beatings'. I remember all this very clearly. I escaped much of this because I just kept out of the firing line. However, I was seriously assaulted by one member of staff in the changing rooms at Chepstow Villas. I remember it very vividly. Just before I was hit hard in the face with a clenched fist, I heard the words, "you little runt!", and then briefly passed out. This was for accidentally bumping into the teacher in the crowded changing room where conditions were very cramped even at the best of times. Some of you will remember the incident and also the identity of the member of staff (I believe he is no longer at St. James). He was apparently reprimanded by Debenham after my parents intervened. My parents and I received no apology. Instead, I was treated to two hours of sarcastic comments about my report to Debenham in the next lesson from the very same teacher.
Having said all this, I want to emphasise that the school appears to be changing. Current members of the school seem happy there. If this is genuinely the case, then I don?t think it would be right or rational to be seek ?revenge? (although I can well understand these feelings). Some of you have proposed ?affirmative action? that would damage the school. I doubt that this will achieve anything. If the current school is a very different place, then this will be undeserved. I take the view that it would be more constructive to wait for the outcome of the inquiry. I have spoken with David Boddy, and he seems genuinely keen to reform the school. I also want to commend former members of staff who have had the courage to face up to the past and issue apologies. I particularly I remember Will Rasmussen as a humane and intelligent man who commanded much respect from the majority of his form (although I accept that a few others evidently remember him differently ? I cannot explain this). There is a conspicuous absence of comment from others, including Nicholas Debenham.
With reference to the inquiry proposed by David Boddy, I think this is a laudable and courageous move. We should take this as a sign of the changing times and give it our complete support. However, I would also emphasise that the exercise will be virtually worthless unless it was transparently independent.
I would be very interested in hearing your views on these points.
I was a St. James Boys school pupil in the early 1980's when the school was based at Chepstow Villas. Although this was a long time ago, memories came flooding back as I read through these posts.
Over the last few days I have been thinking about whether it is really my place to post my own views here or not (I was only there for three years and have not been through as much as some of the pupils who had been there since they were very small). But I think I can add something in my own way (apologies for the length of this post).
The first thing to say is that we need to take this beyond catharsis (a lot of us are very angry and resentful towards Debenham and the school, and rightly so). Some of us have tried to be objective (difficult though this is) and we have tried to relate our experience with some measure of clarity. I hope I can do that here.
My own experience of St. James is that it was a mix of some good things and some bloody awful things that made my life there a living hell. These were undoubtedly the worst days of my life. My parents often struggled to meet the fees at St. James, and sent me there in the expectation that I would benefit from an excellent education that included Sanskrit, meditation etc. (I come from a Hindu background so all this sounded great at the time). [OK - now some of you will have figured out who I am. I would appreciate it if you would preserve my anonymity]. From that perspective, it was potentially outstanding. The problem was that there was a more secretive side to the operation. Had they known about even half of it, I am pretty sure that they would never have sent me there.
The first is that the teachers were often unqualified to teach (this is something I actually discovered on this forum, and it astonished me that schools can be allowed to function in this way).
The second (and arguably more serious) is that the school was associated with the SES - a fact that was never revealed to my parents when I joined up. My parents had never even heard of the SES. I learned about this from the other boys in the school. From my perspective, there was certainly a very strange SES sub-culture that pupils found very tiresome, to which I had no access (for some reason I was never pushed down that route). I think there is a very serious problem with accepting children into the school and not telling his parents about its roots in an organisation with specific and unconventional religious ideologies.
Third, the fact that the school was wholly unprepared to receive pupils at thirteen. The whole curriculum had been designed for people who had been there from the age of 2. There was no plan for older pupils who joined later on. How was I supposed to start learning latin, greek and sanskrit to relatively advanced levels? I had no prior experience of these languages and absolutely no hope of catching up to everyone else?s standards. One has to ask whether there was a premature attempt to boost pupil numbers / school income with little thought given to how such problems would be resolved. I distinctly remember the rather poor quality of History teaching in the sixth form. This was all about how great the British Empire was and the wonderful ?civilising? effects it brought to its grateful heathen subjects. I felt deeply offended for obvious reasons. I tried raising the issue of the Suez crisis and the injustices of Empire etc., but these issues were skilfully dodged. I think most half-decent schools would have a problem teaching history in this way. Pupils cant develop the capacity to think critically and independently if they are taught this drivel.
Fourth, the insane practise of seating children in the rank of their academic performance. I hope very much that this practise has been done away with in the school since it simply sends a message to those pupils who could do better that they are not valued, and that not much is really expected of them (perhaps existing staff/pupils can confirm?). This was probably a crude attempt to introduce a bit of competition into the system to encourage pupils to climb the social ladder in the class (although that is not the way I saw it at the time). Although this strategy worked for some, there was no 'safety net' for those of us who did not do so well out of this system.
My level of academic performance was a disaster at St. James. I am sure that some staff at the school would argue that I was not very bright anyway. In response, I would simply point to my academic achievements since leaving the school (good O and A-levels, three university degrees including a PhD, an excellent training as a research scientist in London and Oxford Uni?s. I now have a faculty position in a University of London department where I am teaching undergraduates and setting up a research laboratory).
Why was I doing so badly? First, the very 'weird', high-pressure environment. I found that I was required to go through the motions of ?meditation? and ?pausing? (remarkably, nobody ever bothered to explain the techniques to me so I just had to ?pretend? to do these ? all rather comical in hindsight). Second, the daily, persistent, vicious racism in the class that went on right under the noses of all the staff (some of it from people who, rather hypocritically, have posted their own anti-St. James views on this forum). I can only conclude that this form of bullying was not taken seriously in the school. Third, the 'academic' neglect. No attempt was made to explain or halt my slide to the back of the back row. If any of my former teachers are out there reading this - I would be very interested to know why you let all this go?
Many of you have talked about the culture of fear and the regular 'beatings'. I remember all this very clearly. I escaped much of this because I just kept out of the firing line. However, I was seriously assaulted by one member of staff in the changing rooms at Chepstow Villas. I remember it very vividly. Just before I was hit hard in the face with a clenched fist, I heard the words, "you little runt!", and then briefly passed out. This was for accidentally bumping into the teacher in the crowded changing room where conditions were very cramped even at the best of times. Some of you will remember the incident and also the identity of the member of staff (I believe he is no longer at St. James). He was apparently reprimanded by Debenham after my parents intervened. My parents and I received no apology. Instead, I was treated to two hours of sarcastic comments about my report to Debenham in the next lesson from the very same teacher.
Having said all this, I want to emphasise that the school appears to be changing. Current members of the school seem happy there. If this is genuinely the case, then I don?t think it would be right or rational to be seek ?revenge? (although I can well understand these feelings). Some of you have proposed ?affirmative action? that would damage the school. I doubt that this will achieve anything. If the current school is a very different place, then this will be undeserved. I take the view that it would be more constructive to wait for the outcome of the inquiry. I have spoken with David Boddy, and he seems genuinely keen to reform the school. I also want to commend former members of staff who have had the courage to face up to the past and issue apologies. I particularly I remember Will Rasmussen as a humane and intelligent man who commanded much respect from the majority of his form (although I accept that a few others evidently remember him differently ? I cannot explain this). There is a conspicuous absence of comment from others, including Nicholas Debenham.
With reference to the inquiry proposed by David Boddy, I think this is a laudable and courageous move. We should take this as a sign of the changing times and give it our complete support. However, I would also emphasise that the exercise will be virtually worthless unless it was transparently independent.
I would be very interested in hearing your views on these points.