But if you don't believe there is anything accessible to human experience beyond the mind, it's all going to be mind play, isn't it?
Exactly. So what?s the SES definition of self-realization, Bella?
AntonR wrote:The so-called "Self" that we want to discuss can't be discussed or experienced nor can IT experience without going through the mind
If we can?t experience the self/soul, then what makes us think it?s there?
Keir wrote:I always split it into its two english words ( ie Self and Realisation) and understood that depending on your definitions of Self and Realisation it can be made to mean all sorts of things.
Yeah?what did your teachers say it meant, Keir?